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The “Is God Great?” Debate

You, my always attentive readers (see how I arbitrarily assign personality traits to the shadowy, perhaps nonexistent, grammaticaster.net audience?), will undoubtedly be aware that I attended a religious debate last night on the Samford University campus between noted atheist Christopher Hitchens and Christian apologist John Lennox.  I am not a journalist, and I am not a very good commentator – largely because I wear my biases and opinions (at various stages of development, I might add) squarely upon my sleeve.  Instead, I pretty much excel at extracting my own inner monologues and thrusting them into my tiny public corner of the world wide web.  So, as I try to tamp back my gross lack of objectivity, I will try at the very least to present a fairly-worded description of what I took away from last night’s discussion. 

I am profoundly aware – as has been reinforced in several non-related but extremely obvious ways over the past couple of weeks – that my audience is much like the audience in the auditorium yesterday: almost entirely made up of believers in the Christian faith.  I, indeed, used to count myself as one of their number.  I was raised in the Methodist church.  Many of my remembered songs of childhood are Christian hymns.  Almost all of my fondest memories are of the nights I would spend after youth fellowship activities talking and goofing around with friends who to this day are closer to me than my own blood.  I met my wife there.  I triumphed, for a time at least, over my social phobias there.  My experiences there shaped how I view the world.  The congregation there has shown me on more than one occasion the virtues of acceptance and forgiveness, friendship and solidarity.  My eternal conscience speaks in the many voices of Sunday school teachers, mentors and pastors of yesteryear.  That church – that particular church – is profoundly important to me.  I respect it and its past and present members to an immense degree. 

But lately there has emerged a division in my mind between my thoughts on that church and my thoughts on The Church.  While that church still represents safety and warmth, The Church has come to embody intolerance, hypocrisy, willful ignorance, and scorn towards intelligence, inquiry and education.  It has become a closed, impenetrable system – a vast subset of society that claims sole sovereignty over the truth and enjoys a manufactured immunity to questioning and criticism.  I do not intend to hold myself out as some pillar of worldly or metaphysical knowledge, but as religion scoffs at discovery, innovation and ever-deepening scientific understanding, so I detest religion all the more for its fear of and resistance to change. 

And I write those words knowing full well that the tendency of my readers of faith will be to interpret them as personal attacks.  I assure you: they are not. 

Christopher Hitchens What immediately struck me about the “Is God Great?” debate was the gulf that separated the two schools of thought present in that building last night.  The overwhelming majority of the attendees were Christian – a consequence of location (Alabama, the Heart of Dixie, Bible Belt, USA) and institution (Samford is a private, Baptist-affiliated college).  In the minority were the enthusiastically expressive Hitchens-worshipping atheists.  I would be disingenuous if I pretended not to feel more closely aligned with the latter, but I am not ready to call that vitriolic group my own just yet. 

I briefly entertained the idea of live-blogging/tweeting the debate, but it turns out that walking and chewing gum at the same time just isn’t my thing.  That, and the thick, rapid-fire British accents required about 150% of my attention.  Blogger ickna, however, was somehow able to manage the feat.  For my part, I will not attempt to recount the entire event.  These remembrances are just that – fuzzily gleaned and paraphrased from my memory.

I can say that Hitch’s argument was more convincing to me, largely because he has reason on his side.  When pressed, Lennox several times resorted to preacher-speak (invoking the evidence of “the resurrected Christ” and lapsing into childish rhetoric “I say ‘atheism is not great!’” designed to pander to the Christian majority, who ate it up and applauded wildly whenever he offered up those tired clichés).  That isn’t to say that I totally dismissed his side of the debate, mind you. 

Hitchens’ best moments came when he would draw a clear contrast between atheistic and religious world-views.  He pointed out, for one, that while he and other atheists could make solid statements about what exactly it would take today to convince them to change their minds, believers would never make such rigid claims.  The other high point was Hitch’s two questions:  1) Think of a moral action that a believer can do (or has done) that an atheist could never do; and 2) think of an immoral action that a believer could do that an atheist could never do.  The point being that 1 cannot be answered while 2 can be answered quite readily (given the injustices and horrors done in the name of God over the centuries, etc.). 

Lennox’s best moment, on the other hand, came during the question & answer segment.  When the question was posed to Hitchens, “how should a new adherent of atheism deal with being a part of a group, family, or institution (like Samford) that subscribes to a particular faith?”  Hitch’s answer was that you should get as far away from those groups as you can.  Lennox, on the other hand, said that you should remain where you are – that diverse groups with differing viewpoints can learn and benefit greatly from one another.  Lennox’s answer was the correct one, without a doubt. JohnLennox-large

That is what the lesson was for me.  I have already read Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris, and God Is Not Great is on the to-read list.  In fact, I find it extremely unlikely that anything either man said came close to changing anyone’s mind.  What struck me most was the divide between believer and unbeliever – the closed-mindedness on both sides of the issue.  The Christians were fervent and, in the case of the two women having religious-experience orgasms next to me, in full holier-than-thou mode.  In that same vein, however, the atheists were sure to give Hitchens his standing ovation and punctuate his points with the same enthusiastic applause – the enthusiasm of the blindly faithful.  Both displays were despicable to me. 

The enraptured lady next to me, after the debate was over, confronted me about what she perceived to be my atheism (presumably because I was nodding more approvingly or clapping more heartily for Hitch than for Lennox).  I didn’t quite know how to react to that.  When pressed, I wavered and said I wasn’t quite ready to call myself an “atheist”… that I just didn’t know what ‘the answer’ was.  As she emoted about the unbridled joy of the holy spirit and the obvious truth of Jesus, I countered not with indignation, but with this statement, surprising even to me: “I cannot say that I believe that, but I do think it would be nice if that were true.”  She looked at me with – I swear to God – tears in her eyes, touched my arm, and kindly said “it would be, wouldn’t it.”  It was powerful in a way I cannot convey clearly here, in words.

She struck me as the kind of person who I have, I am ashamed to say, looked down upon in the past.  Someone who blindly and blissfully accepted a “truth” for which there is no evidence, and without questioning why or exploring the other side of the argument.  But in that moment – in those five minutes – she, the firm believer, and I, the skeptic, shared something transcendent and true.  That is the kind of experience I would wish on everyone.  That is what John Lennox was talking about.  Our human experience is enhanced by our heartfelt, accepting interactions with those around us who are different.  I would like to think that, had she and I spent another three hours discussing belief and non-belief, that while we would probably walk away with our positions unshaken, we would still walk away with our lives more enriched by the act of communicating with each other.

That openness is what is missing from the global religious conversation. 

I will end with a book recommendation that may surprise you: The Language of God by Francis S. Collins.  I will tell you that I do not agree with Collins’ conclusion.  He, like Lennox last night, ultimately rests his argument on the existence of a “moral law” which, in his opinion, can only have come from a divine, caring creator.  I am not convinced that the existence of right and wrong necessarily entails a higher power.  All that aside, though, I found his book respectful and as well-rounded as it could be and still endorse Christianity.  I started out intensely disliking his approach, but there were four chapters – each devoted to a different conclusion: atheism, creationism, intelligent design, and his own hypothesis – which spoke to me as a free thinker.  His expertise in scientific fields affords him a great deal of credibility, too.  I would want readers of the book to approach it, as much as possible, as blank slates.  Impossible, I know.  But that is how we should be.  That we are not there yet should not mean that we should simply throw up our hands and say to hell with it. 

Now, goodnight Christians and atheists too, and goodnight Muslim, Zen Buddhist and Jew.  Goodnight human beings under stars which we share, and goodnight, good creatures — live, love, and take care.

T Minus 6 Days and Counting

Look.  I am either overloaded or brain-dead.  All I am reading about is the election, and all I am inclined to talk about is the election (and maybe Alabama football).  The problem I run into while I’m perusing all of the various blogs and news articles during the day, is that I cannot possibly make a stronger argument than those who do this sort of thing for a living.  So it is with a strange mixture of relief and resignation that I endeavor to submit my personal list of must-read political material.  I will continue to keep a sharp eye out for these sorts of articles from now until election day.  These will be selected for their relevance to my undecided, conservative and libertarian readers.  My only personal, direct plea to those friends would be that they should read these pieces with unbiased eyes.  You don’t have to take them to heart.  You don’t have to agree with them or with me.  But please click the links and give them a once-over.  I don’t want to destroy your way of life or take away your hard-earned income, and neither do the progressive politicians I endorse.  I don’t want to debate or argue.  I just want to present these closing arguments from a diverse range of political thinkers.  Here’s the first batch:

1)  Ryan Sager on how Karl Rove and his protégés have alienated the fiscal conservatives and libertarians.

2)  Robert Shrum on the changing times – the failure of Reagan-era politics and economic theory.

3)  Andrew Sullivan’s Top Ten Reasons Conservatives Should Vote For Obama.  A snippet:

Until conservatism can get a distance from the big-spending, privacy-busting, debt-ridden, crony-laden, fundamentalist, intolerant, incompetent and arrogant faux conservatism of the Bush-Cheney years, it will never regain a coherent message to actually govern this country again.

4)  Anne Applebaum, an “independent female voter” on Why McCain Lost Me.

5)  An Adobe Flash presentation of the many, many conservative thinkers, writers and politicians who have turned away from the Republican Party due to “The Palin Effect. My favorite quote is from Christopher Hitchens:

This is what the Republican Party has done to us this year: It has placed within reach of the Oval Office a woman who is a religious fanatic and a proud, boastful ignoramus. Those who despise science and learning are not anti-elitist. They are morally and intellectually slothful people who are secretly envious of the educated and the cultured. And those who prate of spiritual warfare and demons are not just “people of faith” but theocratic bullies. On Nov. 4, anyone who cares for the Constitution has a clear duty to repudiate this wickedness and stupidity.

More to come over the next and final week of the 2008 election season.